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(Date Posted:02/01/2009 21:05:38)

I juts want to thank you. I've been reading your essays and posts for a few weeks and I've learned more about the meaning of the bible in this time than I have in my 30 years in the RCI and RF.

Please keep it up.

Friend

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Re:to didaktikon
(Date Posted:03/01/2009 00:25:34)

Dear 'Friend'

Without being disrespectful to Ian, you could have read the story of Bill and Ben the Flowerpot Men and still learnt more than you did in RF/RCI!  Let's face it - one cannot 'learn' from one who cannot 'teach', and in rev it was not necessary (in fact, it was forbidden) for any oversight to even consider any kind of formal learning in respect to the Bible.

Ian and Drew have done a magnificent job of expounding on Biblical truths particularly in exposing revival doctrine for the heresy that it is.

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Re:to didaktikon
(Date Posted:03/01/2009 02:45:20)

 Ian still deserves his kiss..

....
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(Date Posted:03/01/2009 19:05:32)

Friend,

You're most welcome.

Blessings,

Ian

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Re:to didaktikon
(Date Posted:04/01/2009 04:39:33)

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Re:to didaktikon
(Date Posted:04/01/2009 04:47:41)

Good comment Moth - probably the most enlightening one I've heard from you yet! ha ha ha
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Reply To MothandRust
(Date Posted:04/01/2009 06:39:37)

Pete,

'Period' to you too, fella!

Blessings, bro'.

Ian

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Re:to didaktikon
(Date Posted:04/01/2009 20:37:07)

I think I read on some post while trying to catch up a bit that Ian claimed he used to speak in tongues and prophesy when he was still an ardent RCI'er !!!

... I presume Ian has long since repented..

Happy New Year Ian

Eric
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(Date Posted:04/01/2009 22:56:39)

Good morning, Eric.

I think I've mentioned elsewhere on this forum that prayer in 'tongues' still accounts for about 5% of my daily prayer discipline. It has a place, it's just not the all-consuming place given it by Revivalists. Also I count 'prophesy' to be one of my 'spiritual gifts' too; albeit my understanding of what constitutes this 'gift' has evolved considerably since I was a naive little Revivalist/Pentecostal.

Blessings,

Ian

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RE:to didaktikon
(Date Posted:05/01/2009 02:10:06)

Hello Ian

I give up.. I had just posted a reply and this board did not take it. May be there is a problem with internet explorer. There is something wrong with the software mechanism that hinders proper editing and so forth and too bad I got this problem a lot before. It even has problems with pasting sometimes.

maybe another time..

Eric
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RE:to didaktikon
(Date Posted:05/01/2009 16:24:17)

Let's try again.

From Ian's exegesis: "Revivalist dogma and the book of Acts - An Exegetical and theological evaluation."

Quote: "To the contrary, according to the text the baptism was stictly for empowerment."

And I agree. This is the very reason why the events that are narrated in Acts 1 and 2 were strictly for the Apostles alone and have nothing whatever to do with the "120". The flow from Luke into Acts shows that the Apostles ALONE were being entrusted with the empowerment that occurred on the Day of Pentecost and the Apostles had three years of preparation and it clearly states "having given orders to the Apostles through the Holy Spirit whom He chose" (Acts 1:2). Acts appears to me to be a time of strictly foundational establishment. Ephesians 2:20 sums it up so succinctly "having been built upon the foundation of the Apostles" and it  does not state "having been built upon the foundation of the 120" at all and Ephesians 2:22 qualifies it so nicely " are being built together into a dwelling place of God en pneumati - in spirit.."

... Sadly modern day 20th and 21st "pentecostalism" have fallen into terrible error by not paying heed to the Greek text as it has been presented to the wider body of the church and thereby are in lack of the REAL treasure that is waiting for them within the contents of the Word of God. Some food for thought..
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Reply To Disciple
(Date Posted:05/01/2009 20:33:49)

Eric, chaire.

Given your rather curious comments about Pentecostalism, can I infer that you intend finally coming out of that nonsense, to embrace something a little saner?

Blessings,

Ian

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Re:to didaktikon
(Date Posted:05/01/2009 23:17:20)

Me - I have been happy with the little Baptist church that I have been with the last few several years now. Right now, my focus remains on finishing off my degree which has but two subjects to go and I will finish early this year... But you should know that sanctification is an event and a process..  Personally I am becoming a little tired of the Charismatic games being played these days

Getting back to your essay. Did you notice in verse 2: "dia pneumatos agiou " - so the Acts 1 and 2 narrative of the feast of weeks is in fact a Godhead authorised and engineered event ??? Thus further emphasizing the importance of the role of the Apostles as being "THEM ALONE" !! Awesome stuff !!

blessings

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RE:to didaktikon
(Date Posted:09/01/2009 23:23:21)

Reply to Didaktikon (09/01/2009 02:05:14)

Hi, Eric.

Basically one has to subscribe to the ABS in order to access their data (it does cost, however, most universities already subscribe so if your college has an inter-library understanding with UQ or Griffith Uni, you should be able to get access, gratis).

It's been my habit to check the 'stats' after every census. To say that the RCI and the RF are in serious decline would be a considerable understatement!

Blessings,

Ian

Thanks Ian.

To say "and the RF" should not come as a surprise to me... So if the RF are in serious decline then they are losing more people then they are gaining. It becomes a question of how many leave the RF to how many join. But lets face it.What have they got to offer anyone ??? Oh well so be it..

Going busy again. I have a 3k paper on Romans 7 to bury myself in for the next few weeks and I want the draft ready by Ozzie Weekend. Then that leaves TWO subjects only to go...

To Epi - I'll email you privately..

thanks Ian and Thanks Epi..

oh by the way Ian.you don't get into trouble with Mrs. D with all the time you spend in these discussion boards... Me thinks I should pray for you.

blessings

Eric
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RE:to didaktikon
(Date Posted:08/02/2009 21:28:34)

Just been listening to the Sky News Channel and it looks the Fed Govt is now rallying the Army in the fight to stop the Victorian Bushfires with bulldozers and men and all sorts of logistical support. Ian might therefore be absent from us for a little while so keep those prayers happening and that both Ian and his family remain safe ..

blessings

Eric
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Re:to didaktikon
(Date Posted:08/02/2009 22:07:29)

Hey Eric,

Such a call out is to be expected under state DisPlan arrangements going back for decades. Soldiers by virtue of their fitness and training (supplemented by fire fighting instruction and supervision by such as DSE) are most unlikely to suffer much more than exhaustion.

Our concerns should be more for those in ignorance such as we see on TV bulletins defending their homes while wearing boardshorts and thongs. Over 100 fatalities already! It seems that when this season is over and the coroner investigations are concluded, there will need to be some serious education and training for many of those who "play with fire" by living amongst our great Aussie bush. :-(

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(Date Posted:08/02/2009 23:12:54)

Reply to Talmid (08/02/2009 22:07:29)

Hey Eric,

Such a call out is to be expected under state DisPlan arrangements going back for decades. Soldiers by virtue of their fitness and training (supplemented by fire fighting instruction and supervision by such as DSE) are most unlikely to suffer much more than exhaustion.

Our concerns should be more for those in ignorance such as we see on TV bulletins defending their homes while wearing boardshorts and thongs. Over 100 fatalities already! It seems that when this season is over and the coroner investigations are concluded, there will need to be some serious education and training for many of those who "play with fire" by living amongst our great Aussie bush. :-(

I don't know if you can fore see disaster. I have been through a number of tropical cyclones and when you see trees going all over the place and power lines dancing wildly and then you see some silly drongo trying to drive his car in winds with gusts above 220 k. I guess we'll never understand human panic..

Eric
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Re:to didaktikon
(Date Posted:09/02/2009 02:21:02)

Eric,

Can't foresee? Not precisely, but make no mistake, there would have been 000's on standby that weekend because of the forecast weather conditions combined with the known effects of the prior climatic conditions in past mths and yrs.

Sure there are turkeys in abundance, but if schools can now be forced to do things like driver/road-rules education the Vic government might be well-advised to do some basic fire-survival stuff in schools too. No doubt it already happens in many rural areas. No doubt the Royal Commission will address many of the issues. I just hope that there won't be a knee-jerk reaction of forcing well-prepared residents to abandon their homes. That would be a typical politician's idea of being seen to do something, but that something being truly dumb. As I understand it, the people of Marysville and Kinglake couldn't have been evacuated anyway because of the speed at which the firefront moved. On the other hand, if fuel reduction burning had been prevented for some reason, that would be a good thing to address even though likely to attract the ire of certain 'greens'.

As I understand it there was truly scary,  E-X-T-R-E-M-E fire behaviour but if there were no effective bushfire planning and mitigation, the Kinglake and West Gippsland fires would likely have converged on the Mornington Peninsula by now and Melbourne would likely be toast!

How do we deal with panic? The same way we deal with the spiritual craziness that comes after being religously abused. On the non-spiritual side, by education. The secular public purse can certainly address that.

I'll get off my soapbox now, and my thoughts and prayers are with those affected.

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